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Lovely.... lovely threading of conversations and quotes, too. This especially: passed chest to chest. The saying of women, life, freedom reminds me of the whakauki nā te whenua, nā te wahine, ka mate te tangata. The quote about the plumber made me sad, I don't know the context it was intended, but my brother was a plumber and he hated both the job and the stigma that went with it. And yet, when he died, all his plumbing mates showed up and they all spoke of what a great guy he was, not just because he was good at his trade. Makes me think about the stigma attached to jobs census once upon a time classified as unskilled. Yet omygod do you think I can replace my broken showerhead thingy so that it doesn't squirt me in the fucking face every morning? Of course I can't. BUT I CAN PASS STORIES CHEST TO CHEST (*crying emojis*) xx

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Nadine I'm glad you read this because you were there for the orthopaedic carpenter conversation! That chest to chest quote was from Behrouz's Book Club, which happened just afterwards.

The plumber thing was I was talking with Ruby about how everyone wants me to still draw, even though I switched from drawing to writing over three years ago now. The first piece of your writing I ever read was about your brother- on the Spinoff- it wrecked me.

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Ahhhh that makes so much sense!! You write like someone who observes the kinds of details you need to depict something, to show it rather than to merely describe it. To make a person feel like they’re there. I can’t believe you have only been writing three years! You must read heaps. So skilled - and drawing is clearly complementary (I say that now, with the tiny bit of experience I’ve gained since picking up a sketch book). We really must wānanga these things more in person. It’s my favourite kind of writing and recognising it in someone else’s makes me understand what I am wanting to do more. Beauitufl. (And yes, haha, the humble carpenter new boyf, who is intrigued by cloth)!!

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I've been writing for more like 25 years- just not in public. Yeah I almost put in how he wanted to touch the fabric of your homemade dress!

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