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Lidija P Nagulov's avatar

Incredible conversation, it gave me so many thoughts. One thing it made me think of is a line from I remember not where, that said ‘what makes a princess is not how she acts but how she is treated’. Now of course what makes a wizard is also how she acts, but I love this idea that people have to be open to accepting this bit of deep weirdness, a serious playfulness of sorts, for this role to work. Fascinating.

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Rosie Whinray's avatar

Thanks! Yes indeed, it's not so different from naming yourself 'artist'. I had a huge fear of 'artist' as a self-descriptor; for ages I didn't use it. When I did first start using it, it felt big and strange, but after a while I got used to it, and now I deploy it regularly without a second thought. Fake it til ya make it, and even then, it's not entirely real!...

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Lidija P Nagulov's avatar

I also really resonated with what you said about art being its own sort of magic. And, like, it is. Just like making an object out of wood is a sort of magic, or cooking a pot of soup, or steeping herbs into tea.

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Rosie Whinray's avatar

See, probably you're a Wizard, thinking like that!

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Lidija P Nagulov's avatar

Oh my!! The Wizard of Outremont? Something to be pondered.

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Mark Fitzpatrick's avatar

This was a really fantastic conversation Rosie, and a real joy to spend some time yarning about these deep things with you ... Definitely must do it again soon! (even WITHOUT recording it! Imagine!)

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Rosie Whinray's avatar

Likewise e hoa. Keen! So many potential tangents!

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